00:58:38 Caroline Armon: bravo
00:58:54 Katy Weil: Yes
01:05:07 Diana Rohlman: I find The Ultimate Computer to be a fascinating episode, for so many reasons
01:06:04 Bryan Mendez: I love how Commander Data is an AI that becomes one of the most ethical characters in Star Trek.
01:06:21 Rose Ferri: Agreed. One of the best episodes for when the computer sees man as unneccessary infestation
01:06:55 Iset Namwen: ๐๐ฝ
01:08:08 Katy Weil: The Arena episode has this “superior” race having them fight – like the Christians and Lions – this “superior” race failed to see the irony, yet we all saw it (and hey, many of us were as young as 10 or so and WE saw itโฆ;-)
01:09:57 Kim Frymire: TRUE they want DUNE.
01:10:09 Katy Weil: “Dune” excellent point. Allows for those with the most resources to rule.
01:10:11 Dacoda Maddox: ๐
01:10:48 Rose Ferri: they want to rape the planet of resources of value to line their pockets
01:11:51 Dr Ren Freeman: Topic is also addressed by Erika Nesvold in her text Off-Earth: Ethical Questions and Quandaries for Living in Outer Space
01:11:52 Dacoda Maddox: And collective action. We need collective action rather than the whims of an individual to get to the Star Trek future and not the Dune future.
01:12:35 Kathleen Chung: Beautiful use of excellent episodes ๐
01:13:06 Halyn Betchkal: Mm ‘The Inner Light’ is a poigniant episode, very memorable
01:13:43 Marisa Albrecht: Voyager – the Scientific Method
01:13:45 Kim Frymire: Ethno-biologist, ethnobotanist, etc. are too few.
01:14:10 Kathleen Chung: Good ep: TNG First Contact, where culture is not ready for technology.
01:14:37 Marisa Albrecht: Assimilated
01:14:48 Alan Gould: In one episode an alien was puzzled by humans being concerned about the difference between good and evil. “They both use the same methods” Do you have any thoughts about this and the idea that ends justify the means?
01:14:50 Dacoda Maddox: have been assimilated?
01:16:45 Bryan Mendez: I recall recent discussions about current events and people wishing for the future like Star Trek, and I pointed out that even Trek predicted that we as a society need to go through a crucible that makes us grapple with our worst instincts in order to chose to follow our. best instincts.
01:17:16 Luna Dara Kelondra: The sometimes scary thing is that data can be manipulated to support completely opposed viewpoints.
01:17:19 David Farrer: The beginning of every good episode is someone not following the prime directive.
01:18:05 Luna Dara Kelondra: Would it be safe to say technology is maturing faster than the human species?
01:18:40 Bryan Mendez: The Day the Earth Stood Still had that same idea of a Galactic community that would impose their morality on technologically lesser developed worlds.
01:18:46 Luna Dara Kelondra: Normal is relative. In a community of Deaf, hearing is not normal.
01:19:34 Kathleen Chung: Random: any thoughts on UFO/UAP recent news?
01:21:12 David Farrer: My wife’s response to Star Trek is classic: “What are they all doing out there? Why don’t they just go home?”
01:21:28 Dr Ren Freeman: Yes! Back in 2014 I posed a question to the UN High Forum regarding UNOOSA โ โAre Colonial Methodologies and Methods Migrating to Outer Space.โ
01:21:44 Luna Dara Kelondra: How about the Stargate cultures, such as the Nox, who have access to advanced technology, but choose to live symbiotically with Nature? (My personal dream)
01:21:58 Andy Kreyche: @Luna: I think it’s safe to say the answer is “yes.” Evolutionarily, I like to think of humans as impulsive teenagers. Hopefully we’ll settle into maturity before it’s too late.
01:22:21 Kathleen Chung: Love this question – basic.
01:25:26 Christopher Teren, IEI: A recording of this, and all past webinars, can be watched at our website – https://indigenouseducation.org/multimedia/
01:26:01 Kathleen Chung: Calling space the frontier is itself colonial Earth centrist thinking, right?
01:26:06 J. Benton: On the topic of ethical exploration vs colonialism, some folks at NASA have been exploring this question: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2010.08344
01:26:22 Katy Weil: @Kathleen – such a good point!
01:27:06 Bryan Mendez: The Borg seems like it was meant to be an allegory for Communism, but also ends up being an allegory for Colonialism. But I think there was an episode where Starfleet was criticized as being like the Borg, because they expect divergent cultures to assimilate to Federation values (example: The Ferengi).
01:27:48 Luna Dara Kelondra: I think it’s interesting that in the one episode of Voyager where there is a planet with two indigenous cultures, one culture has been separated and isolated from the technologically advanced one by a previous instellar visitor, and the Voyager crew has to repair the ‘biosphere’ in order to protect the smaller culture.
01:28:40 Rose Ferri: like “City in the Cloud” original series
01:28:51 Dacoda Maddox: There are two thing that I thing are pronounced in Star Trek, and are my two favorite attributes of humans. Our boundless curiosity and our infinite capacity to change. I think once we can start putting our energy into those attributes rather than our baser nature, we will be better as a society.
01:29:13 Kathleen Chung: @J. Benton great link
01:30:34 Luna Dara Kelondra: I wrote a story once about aliens studying humans as a high school project. Lol
01:31:15 Caroline Armon: I haven’t watched Startrek since I was a kid, now I’m inspired to watch and think, thank you!!!!
01:31:42 Katy Weil: @Dakota – really appreciate your thought here
01:32:43 Dacoda Maddox: Thanks @Katy. Its something I have been obsessing over for the last 6 months or so.
01:33:08 Katy Weil: And apologies for the misspelling, Dacoda!
01:33:32 Kathleen Chung: Finally, moderator raises a non human race. None of us did. Interesting.
01:33:34 Aubrey Dull: @Luna That would make an excellent episode of The Twilight Zone!
01:34:41 Dacoda Maddox: @Katy, it’s all good, what’s in a name and all of that.
01:36:15 Dacoda Maddox: I would love to take y’all’s classes!
01:37:03 Danita Macy: Agree @Dacoda
01:37:19 Kim Frymire: That is a great insight!
01:37:22 Luna Dara Kelondra: What does it say about us that the most popular character in the original series is Spock, the ‘outsider’ in the crew?
01:37:42 Katy Weil: @Dacoda – ๐
01:38:15 Dacoda Maddox: My favorite episode!
01:39:47 Katy Weil: Yes, I was unsure about ST Academy at first – cringy even. But it won me over regarding an understanding of how much each student did not yet understand, and could not. Education is a change in behavior as the result of experience.
01:40:40 Gil D’fish: The Sisco!!!
01:42:07 Luna Dara Kelondra: How many of us have a microwave, but prefer food that has been prepared without using it?
01:42:11 Kathleen Chung: She doesn’t here the centering, “bringing the other cultures “back’ here”, presumably.
01:42:37 Heather Fischer: Billionaires are standing in the way
01:43:14 Dacoda Maddox: This chat really needs a thumbs up function or something of the sort!
01:43:32 Kathleen Chung: The void?
01:43:32 Kathleen Ackley: Yes, its driving me nuts that I cannot react to comments!!
01:43:39 Kayla Scheafer: It really seems like we’re in the Bell Riots timeline right now.
01:44:09 Morgan Skidders: We need to move from a scarcity mindset to a gifting mindset
01:44:36 Diana Rohlman: Kathleen – it wasn’t the Void, more like a space hurricane? But the void episodes are really fascinating commentary on environmental justice.
01:45:14 J. Benton: I’m definitely a scientist because of Star Trek.
01:45:41 Kathleen Chung: Thrilled to hear you’ve all published ST books. Please post links!
01:46:02 Diana Rohlman: I think the episode is Parallax
01:46:19 Rebecca N: I wonder how much was missed by having almost exclusively male writers for many of the early series.
01:46:22 Katy Weil: Same – a scientist because of Star Trek, and a natural resource scientist – wildlife biologist, because of the optimism of Star Trekโฆ ๐
01:47:38 Kathleen Chung: The Voyager episode where ships had few resources/must pool? The Void.
01:48:13 Kathleen Chung: Parallax is where the ship whacks out, very cool.
01:48:29 Kayla Scheafer: Check out her documentary — Woman in Motion: Nichelle Nichols, Star Trek and the Remaking of NASA
01:50:04 Luna Dara Kelondra: How are ‘Discovery,’ ‘Prodigy,’ and ‘Below Decks’ fitting into the discussions of Star Trek? Advancing the philosophy, taking a step backwards, or not in the discussion at all, just entertainment?
01:50:55 Luna Dara Kelondra: Kirk’s grabbing and kissing every female around can get triggering.
01:51:05 Dacoda Maddox: ๐
01:51:16 Diana Rohlman: I really liked Prodigy, and have been enjoying Strange New Worlds as well.
01:51:53 Aubrey Dull: That is a beautiful description of Lower Decks.
01:51:55 Christian Ready: +10 DS9
01:52:23 Luna Dara Kelondra: Nichelle was an amazing woman!
01:52:26 Dacoda Maddox: I may get flak for this, but Enterprise is deeply under rated. It shows us how the federation really gets its legs. It’s our transition from “now” to “then”.
01:52:38 Kayla Scheafer: Discovery is the Trek future I want! I love it so much. Lower Decks is a love letter to the trek community. I’m here to enjoy each series for what it is and philosophize each one. Why compare when they’re all so different and their own beings.
01:52:41 Christian Ready: Episode for episode, DS9 is the best written series.
01:52:43 Marlowe Primack: What a wonderful conversation, thank you everyone!!
01:53:00 Diana Rohlman: I also liked Enterprise, especially because it takes place before the Prime Directive, and shows the flawed decision making that led to the Directive and improving the Federation
01:53:13 Rae Taylor: A Thousand Thanks!
01:53:15 Katy Weil: Agree about Enterprise. An unsung series that has grit and hope
01:53:38 Kim Frymire: This webinar could have easily gone for another couple of hours. Thank you. This was wonderful!
01:53:43 Naomi Weidner: Amazing session!!! Thanks to Nancy and the participants.
01:53:58 Katy Weil: Thank you all so much! Infinite diversity infinite combinations
01:54:05 Dacoda Maddox: Thank you everyone, this has been really amazing, truly refreshing
01:54:07 p teal: Yes! Thank you everyone and thank you Nancy for hosting it! Never seen Star Trek, but obviously now I have to dive into that 800hrs too.
01:54:10 tom churchill: thank you everyone for the talk. very interesting longtime sci fi reader.
01:54:15 Kathleen Ackley: And I didn’t look at Facebook once! ๐
01:54:27 Kathleen Chung: Thank you thank you thank you! IDIC!
01:54:28 Lisa Hayward: Great webinar with great engagement! Thank you to all who organized/ participated.
01:54:29 Meredith Speicher: This was great, mahalo!
01:54:38 Aubrey Dull: I would tune in regularly to a continuation of this topic! Such a delight, so insightful, and I’m leaving with a list of things to watch and read related to this topic. Thank you!
01:54:48 Alice Loth: Thank you may you all live long and prosper!
01:55:04 Diana Rohlman: Thank you all for the incredible engagement and questions! Live long and prosper!
01:55:09 Kim Frymire: @Aubrey Dull. Absolutely!
01:55:21 Katy Weil: Was a typo – meant to write Infinite diiversity in infinite combinations.
01:55:42 Luna Dara Kelondra: Wonderful! On a phone I can’t save the chat.
01:55:50 Christopher Teren, IEI: https://indigenouseducation.org/multimedia
01:55:54 p teal: Its everything I LOVE about the cultural intersection of art and science
01:55:57 Luna Dara Kelondra: This has been fantastic! Thank you!
01:56:13 Aubrey Dull: Hooray, Chris!
01:56:15 David Farrer: This has been so great! Thank you!
01:56:26 Liz Keim: Fabulous – even for someone who has not watched much science fiction – much to continue to learn through your research and ways of learning/knowling
01:56:29 Andrew Graham: amazing! thank you!
01:56:35 Diana Rohlman: Q is a little like Coyote perhaps
01:56:36 Dacoda Maddox: Q is Coyote
01:56:37 Martin Storksdieck: Wonderful session, very deep and the three panelists, you were very complimentary. I loved it.
01:56:51 Scott Hildreth: Thanks to everyone for a terrific discussion.
01:56:56 Freya Holloway: This has been wonderful. Thanks to all of you!
01:57:09 Kayla Scheafer: Thank you!
01:57:15 Christian Ready: Very well done. Enjoyed this very much. Thanks!
01:57:17 Beth Haley: Thank you!!
01:58:05 Freya Holloway: How cool!
01:58:24 Christian Ready: One Sky. Great planetarium show!
01:58:25 Luna Dara Kelondra: Star Wars has such an undercurrent of spiritualityโฆ
01:58:40 Christian Ready: https://oneskyproject.org
01:59:52 Luna Dara Kelondra: I’m interested!
01:59:56 Freya Holloway: Very interested!
01:59:58 Kim Frymire: I lived in Farmington, NM and yes the relationships present in Star Trek and the relationship between the Dine and the communities adjacent to the REZ have parallels for sure.
02:00:11 Christian Ready: Yes please, Iโm interested!
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